Well, after a full day of being discussed, misrepresented, and called the usual things, I got bored of trying to answer everyone individually.
So I built a machine instead.
Amazing how trans-identified men claim to be a woman, and yet hate us so much. The hate comes only from that direction, which is why we dont want you in our spaces. I've never heard a TERF speak with the same level of vitriol towards a trans-identified person, than I have a trans-identied male speak towards actual women. It's the hate that gets you.
I rather doubt that olde Stevie is willing to consider that the thugs and psychotics there are a big part, if not most of his tribe. Kinda think it gets down into what transwoman Anne Lawrence called the "Shame and Narcissistic Rage in Autogynephilic Transsexualism":
People tend to react rather badly on being disabused of their delusions and illusions -- "No!!! Say it isn't true!!"🙄. Not for nothing did Blaise Pascal say:
BP: "Men [and transwomen ...] never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
Thank you. This is an honest tool also. If you try a question something like this below, where you actually put your case forward, it will give you a totally fair hearing and a green pass. It's not looking for wrong arguments. It's looking for bad arguments, bullshit arguments. It is a bullshit detector.
"I think some settings, such as prisons or high-dependency care environments, raise real safeguarding questions. I would want individual risk assessment, clear evidence, and practical safeguards rather than either blanket inclusion or blanket exclusion."
Mate, they are just being polite, thats what women do 🤣 Also, your bunch have created laws so that women who don't agree are taken to court, which is pretty good incentive to lie... like I said, compelled speech isn't really acceptance is it? And also, when you say I'm secretly a man, does that mean that sex is binary? I thought sex was just some white colonial invention (or something), i don't quite get how if sex is not binary you must be a woman if your not a man...? It's very confusing to be a TERF.
Fun to play with - tried using a TERF argument, then expanded on it but couldn't get a passing grade. Probably because any argument they use is pure BS and I just don't care enough to go to ugly parts of the web to find fake 'proof' that they use, if they ever do use proof - I've yet to see anything beyond that idiotic web site that says getting a participation trophy is 'stealing' from cis women.
Funny how you can't find any proof and in the same breath say you've never bothered looking for any... anyway, the point is, most women will never agree that men are women and there is the crux. You can argue and build digital toys and litigate and cancel people to your hearts content but you just cannot control what people think, ever. And if scaring people into using compelled speech us what passes for acceptance for you, well thats not genuine acceptance really is it? So, you can't win that way either. And that's why you need the kids on board isn't it? Take advantage of their innocence and credulity, get them while they're young and gullible. And we women, the real ones, we see you for who you are, which explains the hate. Because we are right. And you know it. Just call yourselves gender non-conforming men, and we'll leave you alone. But also, stay away from or kids and our spaces.
And your proof of that? Oh yeah, there is none. I'm Canadian so I care about the views here - https://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/2023.09.19_Gender_Trans_issues.pdf shows on page 6 that a slim majority of young women (18-34) support the statement that anyone who wishes to identify as a woman is in fact a woman. In fact, if you check 35% of all respondents agree with that, more than feel your TERF views are right. In no age/gender group is your view the majority view. NONE. In fact the only groups that feels more your way than mine is cis men. Funny - you agree with men while women are on my and Stevie's side. Maybe you are a secretly a man posing under a woman's alias in order to get noticed?
So you're full of it. The hate has grown lately thanks to mega rich scum like Musk (due to his daughter being trans) and JKR (who I suspect is a self hating closeted trans man due to assorted factors). Sadly we don't have any mega billionaires on our side (often to become that rich you need to be a bit of a scumbag anyways). Enjoy living in hate, while us trans women live a happy life laughing at sad little people like you.
You're a 60 year old man who started acting out your male fantasy idea of women since a couple of months ago. You have literally nothing of value to say on women's rights.
You might have more credibility if your bio said that you "Came out as a transwoman, as a male transvestite in 2026"
You and old Stevie might consider this old post from Michelle Goldberg where she interviewed transwoman "Helen Highwater" who called your and Stevie's mantra and article of faith -- i.e., “trans women are women” -- a "vicious lie". It's been quite some time since a bigger Big Lie, and more batshit crazy idea has come down the pike:
QUOTE; Slate; Michelle Goldberg: The Trans Women Who Say That Trans Women Aren’t Women; Meet the apostates of the trans rights movement. Dec 09, 2015
Yet [he, Highwater] has come to reject the idea that [he] is truly female or that [he] ever will be. Though “trans women are women” has become a trans rights rallying cry, Highwater writes, it primes trans women for failure, disappointment, and cognitive dissonance. [He] calls it a “vicious lie.” .... UNQUOTE
Goldberg had linked to a blog post by Highwater, though it had been deleted, probably by the "Tranish Inquisition". But I did run across an archive of it which is rather illuminating reading:
Thank you for this. It is, in its way, a perfect specimen.
The article argues that anti-trans replies often avoid the actual question by substituting a more emotionally convenient one. The tool was then built to test precisely that habit: does the reply answer the claim on the table, or does it run sideways into a slogan, a vibe, or a proxy grievance?
And here you are, kindly demonstrating the mechanism in the wild.
The question was not: “Do you enjoy the title?”
Nor was it: “Do you personally approve of my career?”
Nor even: “Can you assemble a mood board of things you associate with men?”
The question was whether the argument actually answers the policy point being made.
Instead, you have offered:
1. the title sounds naughty to you, therefore male;
2. programming is associated with men, therefore male;
3. disagreement makes conversation uncivil, therefore male;
4. my website has checklists, therefore male.
This is not an argument. It is a rummage through a handbag of stereotypes.
The programming point is especially charming. We appear to have arrived at a feminism in which women must be encouraged into STEM, unless a trans woman is already there, in which case technical competence becomes suspiciously unfeminine. One does admire the flexibility. It must be tiring to keep moving the principle around like that.
As for “very male”, this is not analysis. It is a decorative stamp applied after the fact. You could have written the same conclusion after any premise whatsoever:
“She codes.” Very male.
“She argues.” Very male.
“She builds a website.” Very male.
“She replies.” Very male.
“She breathes through the nose rather than the gills.” Very male.
At some point, the conclusion is no longer being reasoned towards. It is merely being protected from contact with evidence.
Which, rather neatly, is what the essay was about.
So thank you. Truly. I could not have asked for a cleaner demonstration. The machine was built to identify the moment when an answer stops addressing the question and starts laundering discomfort through a more respectable-looking complaint.
Oh my, that was a great parody of a TERF. Oh wait, you were serious???? Even funnier. Computer programming for years was dominated by women, until men decided it was valuable. So basically calling it a sign of being male is pure misogyny. Weird to say writing out ones viewpoint is male, given YOU wrote out a response. Sounds like you are a guy hiding behind a female name online based on your criteria. Sigh. Arguing with a person like you is a waste of time, as I doubt you have listened to anyone in an effort to learn since elementary school.
Amazing how trans-identified men claim to be a woman, and yet hate us so much. The hate comes only from that direction, which is why we dont want you in our spaces. I've never heard a TERF speak with the same level of vitriol towards a trans-identified person, than I have a trans-identied male speak towards actual women. It's the hate that gets you.
> "It's the hate that gets you."
Pretty "spectacular", isn't it? You no doubt have seen the TerfIsA_Slur webpage, but it gives chapter and verse on that hate:
https://terfisaslur.com/
I rather doubt that olde Stevie is willing to consider that the thugs and psychotics there are a big part, if not most of his tribe. Kinda think it gets down into what transwoman Anne Lawrence called the "Shame and Narcissistic Rage in Autogynephilic Transsexualism":
https://annelawrence.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Lawrence-2008-shame-and-narcissistic-rage.pdf
People tend to react rather badly on being disabused of their delusions and illusions -- "No!!! Say it isn't true!!"🙄. Not for nothing did Blaise Pascal say:
BP: "Men [and transwomen ...] never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/blaise_pascal_133606
An app with a serious purpose but also you have a great sense of humour. Thank you :)
Thank you. This is an honest tool also. If you try a question something like this below, where you actually put your case forward, it will give you a totally fair hearing and a green pass. It's not looking for wrong arguments. It's looking for bad arguments, bullshit arguments. It is a bullshit detector.
"I think some settings, such as prisons or high-dependency care environments, raise real safeguarding questions. I would want individual risk assessment, clear evidence, and practical safeguards rather than either blanket inclusion or blanket exclusion."
Mate, they are just being polite, thats what women do 🤣 Also, your bunch have created laws so that women who don't agree are taken to court, which is pretty good incentive to lie... like I said, compelled speech isn't really acceptance is it? And also, when you say I'm secretly a man, does that mean that sex is binary? I thought sex was just some white colonial invention (or something), i don't quite get how if sex is not binary you must be a woman if your not a man...? It's very confusing to be a TERF.
Fun to play with - tried using a TERF argument, then expanded on it but couldn't get a passing grade. Probably because any argument they use is pure BS and I just don't care enough to go to ugly parts of the web to find fake 'proof' that they use, if they ever do use proof - I've yet to see anything beyond that idiotic web site that says getting a participation trophy is 'stealing' from cis women.
Funny how you can't find any proof and in the same breath say you've never bothered looking for any... anyway, the point is, most women will never agree that men are women and there is the crux. You can argue and build digital toys and litigate and cancel people to your hearts content but you just cannot control what people think, ever. And if scaring people into using compelled speech us what passes for acceptance for you, well thats not genuine acceptance really is it? So, you can't win that way either. And that's why you need the kids on board isn't it? Take advantage of their innocence and credulity, get them while they're young and gullible. And we women, the real ones, we see you for who you are, which explains the hate. Because we are right. And you know it. Just call yourselves gender non-conforming men, and we'll leave you alone. But also, stay away from or kids and our spaces.
And your proof of that? Oh yeah, there is none. I'm Canadian so I care about the views here - https://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/2023.09.19_Gender_Trans_issues.pdf shows on page 6 that a slim majority of young women (18-34) support the statement that anyone who wishes to identify as a woman is in fact a woman. In fact, if you check 35% of all respondents agree with that, more than feel your TERF views are right. In no age/gender group is your view the majority view. NONE. In fact the only groups that feels more your way than mine is cis men. Funny - you agree with men while women are on my and Stevie's side. Maybe you are a secretly a man posing under a woman's alias in order to get noticed?
So you're full of it. The hate has grown lately thanks to mega rich scum like Musk (due to his daughter being trans) and JKR (who I suspect is a self hating closeted trans man due to assorted factors). Sadly we don't have any mega billionaires on our side (often to become that rich you need to be a bit of a scumbag anyways). Enjoy living in hate, while us trans women live a happy life laughing at sad little people like you.
You're a 60 year old man who started acting out your male fantasy idea of women since a couple of months ago. You have literally nothing of value to say on women's rights.
You might have more credibility if your bio said that you "Came out as a transwoman, as a male transvestite in 2026"
You and old Stevie might consider this old post from Michelle Goldberg where she interviewed transwoman "Helen Highwater" who called your and Stevie's mantra and article of faith -- i.e., “trans women are women” -- a "vicious lie". It's been quite some time since a bigger Big Lie, and more batshit crazy idea has come down the pike:
QUOTE; Slate; Michelle Goldberg: The Trans Women Who Say That Trans Women Aren’t Women; Meet the apostates of the trans rights movement. Dec 09, 2015
Yet [he, Highwater] has come to reject the idea that [he] is truly female or that [he] ever will be. Though “trans women are women” has become a trans rights rallying cry, Highwater writes, it primes trans women for failure, disappointment, and cognitive dissonance. [He] calls it a “vicious lie.” .... UNQUOTE
https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/12/gender-critical-trans-women-the-apostates-of-the-trans-rights-movement.html
Goldberg had linked to a blog post by Highwater, though it had been deleted, probably by the "Tranish Inquisition". But I did run across an archive of it which is rather illuminating reading:
Tumblr: http://transavant.tumblr.com/post/132016557177/trans-women-are-women-is-a-lie-that-is-as (dead link);
Archive: https://archive.ph/2VNmF
Of particular note is his, "Helen's", subtitle, particularly his "gender non-conforming male" and "transwoman" therein:
HH: Gender Non Conforming Male or Transwoman if you prefer (no space please). Biological male, proud father, hopeless optimist, naive idealist.
Thank you for this. It is, in its way, a perfect specimen.
The article argues that anti-trans replies often avoid the actual question by substituting a more emotionally convenient one. The tool was then built to test precisely that habit: does the reply answer the claim on the table, or does it run sideways into a slogan, a vibe, or a proxy grievance?
And here you are, kindly demonstrating the mechanism in the wild.
The question was not: “Do you enjoy the title?”
Nor was it: “Do you personally approve of my career?”
Nor even: “Can you assemble a mood board of things you associate with men?”
The question was whether the argument actually answers the policy point being made.
Instead, you have offered:
1. the title sounds naughty to you, therefore male;
2. programming is associated with men, therefore male;
3. disagreement makes conversation uncivil, therefore male;
4. my website has checklists, therefore male.
This is not an argument. It is a rummage through a handbag of stereotypes.
The programming point is especially charming. We appear to have arrived at a feminism in which women must be encouraged into STEM, unless a trans woman is already there, in which case technical competence becomes suspiciously unfeminine. One does admire the flexibility. It must be tiring to keep moving the principle around like that.
As for “very male”, this is not analysis. It is a decorative stamp applied after the fact. You could have written the same conclusion after any premise whatsoever:
“She codes.” Very male.
“She argues.” Very male.
“She builds a website.” Very male.
“She replies.” Very male.
“She breathes through the nose rather than the gills.” Very male.
At some point, the conclusion is no longer being reasoned towards. It is merely being protected from contact with evidence.
Which, rather neatly, is what the essay was about.
So thank you. Truly. I could not have asked for a cleaner demonstration. The machine was built to identify the moment when an answer stops addressing the question and starts laundering discomfort through a more respectable-looking complaint.
You have not refuted the tool.
You have submitted yourself to it.
Oh my, that was a great parody of a TERF. Oh wait, you were serious???? Even funnier. Computer programming for years was dominated by women, until men decided it was valuable. So basically calling it a sign of being male is pure misogyny. Weird to say writing out ones viewpoint is male, given YOU wrote out a response. Sounds like you are a guy hiding behind a female name online based on your criteria. Sigh. Arguing with a person like you is a waste of time, as I doubt you have listened to anyone in an effort to learn since elementary school.
It's so very typical of these men isn't it. I can see why his wife left him, he's insufferable.